former president george h. w. bush in intensive care in houston. we will update you with any other details that we get in the hour. meanwhile, i'm a totally different story, the fiscal cliff is still a big concern for most investors. as the president and congress try to come up with a last-ditch effort to fix the fiscal cliff for the year. the dow jones is down nearly 25 points today. having fallen more than 1.5% over the past week. with details, we have jerry leiby for zacks investment research. here is a big question. if nothing happens, will there be a big seller? >> well, if nothing happens, yes, 547%. but i don't think the question is easy. there's going to be a kick the can solution. the question really is what are the details? who gets hurt the most, and what exactly is going to come out of consumers pockets with we estimate 1500 at minimum will be the reduced income for the average consumer in 2013. but what else? gerri: okay, hang on. what is that though the traders want to see? you talk about consumers and how they will be treated. but ho